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========= C00LeS WaReZ UNiON * HiSToRiCaL mEmOiRZ * cHApTeR #0x8C =========

DaTE:     1997-06-06 aT 23:57

LoCATi0N: ELiTEVESi FiNAL GATHERiNG pArtyplAce
          (mArKKaNenS' aBanDOnEd hOuse, hOEttOEvAaRa, ELiTEVESi, FinLAND)

pREsENT:  CWU mEMBAZ: dArK sTuFfEr . mR.mEgAsTuFf. wArlord . Othra
          COP mEMBAZ: mINDeAGLE . tECHNOfALCON . dRAGONcROW . pHASERhAWK
          CGK mEMBAZ: FUCKSUCKER . DR.BLOOD
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dRAGONcROW: So, that kinda abandoned house then.

dArK sTuFfEr: I assume MoTHeR FuCKeR is already present, as his moped is here.

MoTHeR FuCKeR: Howdy-ho...

wArlord: Look at ye, man, yer early. Have ye gotten the locks picked?

MoTHeR FuCKeR: Yeah, and I even put the fire in the sauna...

dArK sTuFfEr: You have indeed exceeded our expectations.

MoTHeR FuCKeR: Well, I'm happy to a little service, if I get free booze as a reward...

dRAGONcROW: So, take this whole bottle for yerself then, for starters.

MoTHeR FuCKeR: Thanks a bunch.

MoTHeR FuCKeR: *glug glug glug*

DRBLOOD: I think FUCKSUCKER also used to live somewhere around here.

FUCKSUCKER: Well, actually it's several kilometers from here to Kattilapelto...

DRBLOOD: Oh, yeah, right, we drove on the Höttövaara road insted of the Lahopää one.

TF: Is there electricity in there?

MoTHeR FuCKeR: No, it ain't...

TF: Well, doesn't matter, I've got a transformer with me! We'd get the electrics from my HiAce -

dRAGONcROW: I guess yer not quite in the condition for electicity installations.

TF: Ye don't really need to install nuffin' -

dRAGONcROW: Well, ye can't even stand on yer feet anymaw! Now chill out and let's take another look tomorrow -

TF: I'm sure I'd get it done -

dRAGONcROW: Right, let's take him inside to lie down a bit.

mINDeAGLE: I can assist you at it.

== Sisällä ==

dRAGONcROW: Had y'all been here to booze sometime earlier too?

dArK sTuFfEr: Affirmative. That event took place in October 1995.

OONA: I heard Jussi'd prepared their family's traditional fly-agaric kilju for that!!

wArlord: Yeah, and in the evening we got some reality-alterin' experiences for that...

mINDeAGLE: I understand this was also the event when Forest Good appeared to you for the first time.

dArK sTuFfEr: Affirmative. Unless we count the event when this reverable creature appeared in my dream in the character of Baphomet.

OONA: That fly-agaric kilju sounded so totally excitin'! I guess ya ain't made any for this meetin', Jussi?

wArlord: Nope... I'd reckoned that it'd be better to keep it as a kinda one-in-a-lifetime experience...

dArK sTuFfEr: Nevertheless, I think some kind of an transformative spiritual experience would be welcome during this meeting.

OONA: Yeah!!!

dRAGONcROW: At least this would be a kinda one-of-a-kind experience for havin' three Lietevesi crews meetin' at the same time...

mR.mEgAsTuFf: But still, I'm wonderin' why yar so comfortable boozin' with us, when even MAHTI didn't wanna be in our company anymore...

dRAGONcROW: Well, we know that Forest Goat and Vornas-Heikki have accepted y'all, so of course we would too -

mR.mEgAsTuFf: Yeah, right, but I'd expect ya to be at least a bit irritated, but insted yar like our best friends!!

DRBLOOD: Well, we've been on the scene for long enough to see how even the worst lamers' reputation fades out over the years.

FUCKSUCKER: Right. When lamers get replaced by even lamer ones, then you kinda forget the earlier lamers' lameness and just keep the good memories...

pHASERhAWK: It doesn't really matter anymore how somebody blundered sometime in the eighties or early nineties...   dRAGONcROW Yeah, at least unless ye were an Atari user! That's the kinda mistake ye canna compensate anyhow!!

TF: Fuckin' Atari SUCKS, GODDAMMIT!!

mR.mEgAsTuFf: But, I mean, ain't it like just over six months since our Generator Party?

dRAGONcROW: Well, we can well imagine that happened like five years ago, and all the related lameness has faded already.

mR.mEgAsTuFf: Okay. And actually I even feel like I've known ya all for like five years already!

FUCKSUCKER: Oh?

mR.mEgAsTuFf: Well, ya don't feel like superhumans or anything at all!!

dRAGONcROW: Right, that superhuman feelin' fades outta people quite soon once ye get to properly booze with 'em.

pHASERhAWK: I had the same kind of experience, CGK didn't feel like gods to me anymore once I boozed with 'em for the first time...

DRBLOOD: Yeah, same with me and X-GOLD. I used to worship them as a kid when I had just gotten my Sixtyfour...

FUCKSUCKER: And the story goes that you wasted many months in writing some letter to them.

DRBLOOD: Yeah. I needed to be extra careful with the letter and also put in an empty cassette and enough stamps for the response -

FUCKSUCKER: Oh, yeah, right, it was so early that you didn't even have a disk drive yet!

DRBLOOD: Yeah. And BLOODY WHEE, X-GOLD even actually RESPONDED TO ME! And they'd even recorded a tapeful of games for me!

DRBLOOD: And then I started to worship 'em even more! I like built an altar for 'em in my room...

mR.mEgAsTuFf: But ya quitted da worships da first time ya boozed with 'em?

DRBLOOD: Well, on the second time actually. On the first copyparty I couldn't really get a contact to them 'cause we boozed separately...

DRBLOOD: But now whenever we meet, nobody even remembers if it was CGK or X-GOLD who started their crackings first...

== Sauna ==

MoTHeR FuCKeR: It gives out some good steams, this sauna!

dRAGONcROW: Hey guys, tell me where y'all found this place?

wArlord: Well, Markkanens moved outta here a few years back, and of course our parents knew aboot it even afore they did...

dRAGONcROW: Right, if ye've spent all yer life in Lietevesi, yer sure to get to know the news from every fuckin' house, even aforehand.

mINDeAGLE: cULT oF pOWER's all-seeing eye also confirms this observation based on its own experience.

dRAGONcROW: And over the sixteen years ye also get to see everthang worth seein' in Lietevesi, even many times...

wArlord: Well, actually there's still a couple of places we'd still be interested in goin' to.

dArK sTuFfEr: Affirmative. The secret room of Reijo Pirinen, or Pirttimäki -

mR.mEgAsTuFf: Oh, right, we should now break into da Pirinens now before we leave this village!

wArlord: Dunno if that's really worth it. There's sure to be all kinda surveillance cameras and alarms -

MoTHeR FuCKeR: Don't bloody throw any more water now!!

DRBLOOD: Yes, I will! I SHALL HEREBY DECLARE THE LÖYLY COMPO TO BEGIN!

mR.mEgAsTuFf: Gimme fuckin' MERCY!!!

wArlord: After all, it's already over a hundred degrees here to begin with...

mR.mEgAsTuFf: Fuck's sake, I'm givin' up NOW!!

...

DRBLOOD: Allright, so the winner of the löyly compo was mINDeAGLE, and -

dArK sTuFfEr: And the loser was mR.mEgAsTuFf!

mR.mEgAsTuFf: Fuck's sake, didya hafta mention that right in da start, dammit!?

wArlord: Payback tastes good -

mR.mEgAsTuFf: And what was that idea of startin' some fuckin' löylycompo like out of nowhere, dammit!?

pHASERhAWK: Well, the löylycompo was maybe important so that we can release the results after the meeting.

dRAGONcROW: Yeah, results ensure that the party stays in history books. And they prove to subsequent generations that the party's actually thaken place...

mR.mEgAsTuFf: At least I don't wanna some everlastin' reputation for losin' a löylycompo dammit! Ya can have yar own separate löylycompo...

FUCKSUCKER: Well, maybe we should regard it like a practice round now, and have the actual compo sometime a bit later.

pHASERhAWK: Should we have some other compos here as well?

dRAGONcROW: Yeah, absolutely.

FUCKSUCKER: Our meetings always have boozing compos... like, who's the fastest to drink something...

DRBLOOD: And the compo booze must traditionally have like piss and chili in it, to give some extra challenge for the hardest veterans!

dRAGONcROW: We could even have a democompo tomorrow, if we can get power to some computer from Technie's HiAce...

pHASERhAWK: Yeah, a democompo would keep this meeting in history books far better than some joke compos.

...

dArK sTuFfEr: I assume I have already mentioned on IRC that Lietevesi contains many of so-called power places that together form a pentagram.

DRBLOOD: So, it was Vornas-Heikki who first told you about it?

dArK sTuFfEr: Affirmative.

DRBLOOD: What are those power places then?

dArK sTuFfEr: Clockwise from the southern point: Hönttölä, Church beach, Öökkölä, Vornastorppa and Pirttimäki.

wArlord: There'd actually be more symmetry if ye replace Church beach with the junior highschool...

mINDeAGLE: I assume it has originally been at the church, as the locations of the buildings have altered since the 19th century.

DRBLOOD: But, I mean what makes those places "power places" and what does it mean? I maybe understand Pirttimäki, but the others...

mINDeAGLE: Öökkölä was confirmed to be a power place not later than when some kind of an anomalous zone appeared around it after the fire.

wArlord: So, the same kinda zone as in Pirttimäki?

mINDeAGLE: Affirmative. I assume that the houses build at the power places capture their anomalies, which are subsequently liberated at their destructions.

dArK sTuFfEr: Vornanen's hut actually felt strongly anomalous even before it was burned.

DRBLOOD: So, that place has burned too?

wArlord: Yeah, at the same trip as when we visited Vornas-Heikki and he declared us as the new sages...

mINDeAGLE: You were also present in Öökkölä when it was destroyed.

wArlord: Right, we were there too...

DRBLOOD: Somebody might suspect you're pyromaniacs or something!

wArlord: We would never do that, goddammit!!

mR.mEgAsTuFf: Kassu might...

wArlord: Well, at least Kassu wouldna been able to burn Pirttimäki, 'cause it happened like ten years before he'd even born!

DRBLOOD: But you're still plannin' to burn the church?

wArlord: IF YER ASKIN' ME, WE SHOULD LIKE PUT KASSU IN AN ETERNAL HOUSE ARREST SO THAT HE WON'T BE ABLE TO BURN IT!!

mINDeAGLE: The first church in Lietevesi burned down as well.

wArlord: Yeah, I guess it did, right.   dArK sTuFfEr In any case, we have visited all the other locations of the pentagram apart from Pirttimäki.

mINDeAGLE: We have never visited Pirttimäki either.

DRBLOOD: And, as far as I know, nobody from CGK has either dared to go there...

mINDeAGLE: The taboo status of Pirttimäki has indeed been strong, as even authority-denying adolescents have not dared to visit it.

...

wArlord: The early days of Oldschool are really obscure somewhoe, at least based on what Vornas-Heikki told us.

mINDeAGLE: Could you provide us with an example?

wArlord: Well, he mentioned a fella called Martin Eolenius, or Turun-Martti, who was s'posed to have founded Oldschool...

dArK sTuFfEr: We have been trying to find information on Eolenius even in church records, and it seems there is no trace of him at all,

wArlord: Yeah. We even asked Kerttu Korhonen if she's heard anythang aboot him, and she's somebody who should know aboot the local history...

dArK sTuFfEr: I find this very worrisome. Would anyone remember us in a hundred years, now that even the founder of Oldschool has been forgotten?

wArlord: I don't reckon so, at least if everbody moves away from here, and we've only got traces on some computer harddrives...

dArK sTuFfEr: Indeed. I suggest we should leave some kind of a physical memorial to Lietevesi.

wArlord: Yeah, like some graffiti someplace under a bridge if not anythang else. I s'pose that'd stay ther for at least a hundred years...

dArK sTuFfEr: Indeed.

== LAUANTAI ==

myXTer: Hello there...

dRAGONcROW: Look, there's the folks who stayed with the Quake lamers!

DATAPIMP: Yeah.

LAZERCODE: Howdy-ho to y'all from me too...

FUCKSUCKER: So, we've got all of our core members here now too.

mR.mEgAsTuFf: Whatta fuck!? Is it Sunday already??

dRAGONcROW: Nope, Saturday...

mR.mEgAsTuFf: Okay, good then! I thought Abduction would be over already... Well, I'm gonna keep up with sleepin' then...

dRAGONcROW: Weren't y'all guys interested in the Abduction compos?

myXTer: Well, I felt I'm missing out something terribly important if I stay in Abduction instead of the Elitevesi meeting...

LAZERCODE: Yeah, I also felt like I was somewhere totally wrong...

DATAPIMP: Sama here...

dArK sTuFfEr: Look, it's LAZERCODE and DATAPIMP of CGK. My greatest respects to you.

LAZERCODE: Well, hi there.

dArK sTuFfEr: Have you already progressed in analysing the C64 demo you received from the future?

DATAPIMP: Well, we ain't gotten very much time for that recently...

dArK sTuFfEr: I have found a method we could use to receive even more of that kind of material for our analysis.

mINDeAGLE: Does this method include the exposure of diskettes to the space-time anomalies of Pirttimäki?

dArK sTuFfEr: No, although that is an excellent idea as well. I am talking about a method whose practical usability I have already proven.

mINDeAGLE: Could you describe this method?

dArK sTuFfEr: By pleasure. The method is based on vibrational offsets, allowing the "summoning" of imaginary software on magnetic media.

DATAPIMP: Ye say what?

mINDeAGLE: Is this related to your theory of the U dimension of reality?

dArK sTuFfEr: Affirmative, even though the U dimension is more like a vibrational spectrum than a dimension. It can be considered multidimensional -

...

LAZERCODE: Yeah, a mega-co-op C64 demo from CGK and CWU! That's a really worthwhile idea, I reckon!!

DRBLOOD: I'm in for sure.

DATAPIMP: Yeah, absolutely. CGK controls the time dimesnion and CWU controls the U dimension whatever...

FUCKSUCKER: Our years of experience from C64 circuit research would combine with your esoteric magicks...

LAZERCODE: In this case I would say it's decades of experience...

FUCKSUCKER: Oh, yeah, right, the future decades also count in.

myXTer: Could we also get C.O.P. to join in, in case they've also got a dimension of their own...?

FUCKSUCKER: I think the C.O.P.pers have already gotten a bit too spoiled by their AGA Amigas...

DRBLOOD: Yeah, I also think the AGA guys' code is a bit too correct to suit any proper C64 demo.

mR.mEgAsTuFf: What's ya complainin' 'bout the C.O.P.pers once again? It was ya who picked 'em as yar own successors, dammit!

LAZERCODE: Hey, that was back in ninety-one! There was no AGA back then!!

DRBLOOD: Yeah. If we'd known back then what AGA'd do to the Amiga scene, we'd definitely have picked Deathfuckers.

FUCKSCUKER: Yeah. At least Deathfuckers had some true traditional scene values and they also worked on the C64 and not just the Amiga!

dArK sTuFfEr: Strange. I do not think I have ever heard of a group called Deathfuckers before.

FUCKSUCKER: Well, maybe it's just 'cause you're so young...

mR.mEgAsTuFf: But we had heard of ya and Soviet Designs and X-GOLD and all, but Deathfuckers doesn't sound familiar to me either!

DATAPIMP: Winners write the history, and when we picked C.O.P. we also wrote Deathfuckers outta the history at the same time...

dArK sTuFfEr: So, how did you end up deciding cULT oF pOWER rather than Deathfuckers as your successor?

DATAPIMP: Well, we reckoned mINDeAGLE might be better at bigger pictures, and that his visions might work better...

DRBLOOD: Yeah, and he was also concentrating more on implementing his visions than on the machine wars...

FUCKSUCKER: Even though we do respect Deathfuckers' war achievements against the Atari lamers and their SYSTEM BOYS CREW.

LAZERCODER: Yeah, but Forest Goat didn't. 'Cause he didn't get the differences between computer brands, it was all the same for him.

OONA: Did they have some pissguns they shot each other with?

LAZERCODE: Yeah, they did...

OONA: I think I once saw them "battling" there at da schoolyard. They had like flags and everything, for da fuck's sake.

FUCKSUCKER: Yeah, well, the Computer Foundation wars were actually much more credible than the later Amiga-Atari wars between the later crews...

mR.mEgAsTuFf: Was Computer Foundation like the crew that came before CGK?

DATAPIMP: No, it was more like a school computer club that split into many parts there somewhere aroond eighty-six...

DRBLOOD: Or eighty-seven rather.

DATAPIMP: Well, I joined CF back in eightysix and it was already full of fight between computer brands back then.

DATAPIMP: And then in '87 the club broke down permanently. Our Commodore club was the first to declare independence, and then the Sinclair club...

DATAPIMP: And then I ended up to lead the Commodore club in the eight-grade spring.

DRBLOOD: Yeah, I was also with it at the time.

DATAPIMP: And then in the end ot '87 CK became CGK, when we started to get contacts to crews and also became a crew ourselves.

DRBLOOD: Yeah, the abbreviation had of course be three letters long. Later we decided it stood for CGK.

DATAPIMP: But that wasn't the end of the machine wars, all the opposite. Crews and clubs started to fight who officially succeeds CF...

DRBLOOD: But then Forest Goat appeared to us and we thought like, yeah, we've got the mandate, and the other machines lost the war.

LAZERCODE: And we even managed to twiddle the club's key to ourselves. The grown-ups didn't even ask anybody aboot it.

DATAPIMP: I reckon 'twas the machine wars stuff that affected us when we decided to pick a bit more peaceful crew as our successor.

DRBLOOD: Yeah. If we had chosen Deathfuckers instead of C.O.P. they'd probably cut the chain even before CWU.

LAZERCODE: Yeah, they were so hardline Commodore dudes that they prolly would've never accepted a PC lamer crew as their successor.

wArlord: A bit like we can't accept a successor crew that has sometimes like breathed air at Quake or sump'n...

mR.mEgAsTuFf: Right that, AND WE'RE FUCKIN PROUD OF IT!!!

TF: Fuck's sake... what a helluva hangover...

dArK sTuFfEr: It seems you yelled lough enough to wake TF.

TF: Where'm I?

dRAGONcROW: In Lietevesi, in the village of Höttövaara, in a kinda abandoned house...

TF: Oh, yeah, right, we were drivin' t'wards Lietevesi yesterday! Has it been a good party?

dRAGONcROW: Well, yesterda we had a löylycompo, drinking compo and pukin' compo. Today we reckoned aboot havin' some computer compo too...

TF: Yeah, right! And I was s'posed to set up my HiAce to give electricity to our Amigas and Sun!

pHASERhAWK: It might maybe be wise to fuel up first to make sure we won't run out of that electricity.

TF: Yeah, and maybe replenish our booze supplies too...

dRAGONcROW: The co-op store at the town closes at four, so we should maybe get to the replenishment trip as soon as possible.

TF: Allright, let's go then. Could somebody come to gimme the directions and choose the edibles?

dArK sTuFfEr: I can come, given the possibility to visit my home for bringing some supplies.

wArlord: We could bring a can of spray paint from the hardware store for our graffiti...

dRAGONcROW: Is it open?

mR.mEgAsTuFf: Well, if it ain't, then we could get some from our basement.

DATAPIMP: I could maybe also join in. So there'd be a representative from all of the three crews...

dArK sTuFfEr: Sounds like a good arrangement.

TF: Now we should maybe collect all the suggestions aboot what we should bring from the store.

dRAGONcROW: Edibles don't matter so much to me, as long as we've got sump'n to DRINK!

wArlord: We could buy some packages of sausage, if we get some grill or bonfire made...

FUCKSUCKER: We've got our CGK grill with us.

TF: Allright, in that's case it's clear that we include sausage!

dRAGONcROW: We could also get some rye bread and butter on it, in case we get hungry and the grill ain't open...

wArlord: Yeah, absolutely.

TF: But what aboot gettin' to go.

...

myXTer: Did they go already?

wArlord: Yeah, they did...

myXTer: Bloody hell! I thought we could've broght my PC as one of the compo machines, to be able to show our unfinished demo...

mINDeAGLE: We can use my vehicle to bring in your PC if necessary -

FUCKSUCKER: We ain't fuckin' gonna bring no PEECEES here!!

LAZERCODE: Fuck's sake, at least I'd protest if we brought a peecee in here!!

myXTer: Well, in that case we'd have to skip the compo, 'cause we don't have anything to show our demo with.

wArlord: By the way, was there some table or sump'n for Technie's Unix wondercomputer and the Amigas?

dRAGONcROW: There was actually some table in the attic...

pHASERhAWK: Should we like take it down from there then?

dRAGONcROW: Yeah, that could be nice. We could even eat at it...

=== Sparc tulilla ===

wArlord: Now, that's quite a gadget, that there Sparc.

dArK sTuFfEr: I believe we used to have user accounts for this particular computer back in Spring 1995?

TF: Yeah, y'all did. But then there started to be too many random users so we purcased a Linux peecee for 'em.

dArK sTuFfEr: You mean Poseidon?

TF: Right. Guess y'all ended up to Poseidon too in that hassle.

wArlord: So, there were still some users who stayed on Thanatos?

TF: Yeah, the kinda good Amiga scenes who would never start compilin' Eggdrop or BitchX for themselves...

dRAGONcROW: Or some strange Screen version that supports colors.

TF: Yeah. Better to give 'em a Linux Pentium to screw around on, so that the elite wouldna need to suffer from the huge loads.

TF: But then the "elite" started to wonder why we'd given lamers a more powerful computer, and then I was like, fuck it.

TF: I then bought another Linux PC for the "elite" and kept this Sun as my private workstation.

dArK sTuFfEr: Is this Sparc still called Thanatos, even though the new Pentium ended up being called Thanatos as well?

TF: Nope, it's Perseus nowadays. We had to move the Thanatos name to the new server in order to not break the homepage links...

DRBLOOD: I've just been wondering that why in hell did you even chose peecees as server hardware instead of newer Sparcs?

TF: Well, better bang for the buck. At least if ye don't care that the system crashes sometimes and ye need to boot it a bit more often...

TF: I'd really prefer to assign well-designed computers for every use, but nowadays the Intels roll over everbody else in price...

TF: So, let's keep the peecees for now, afore the masses start to actually appreciate Unix gear.

mR.mEgAsTuFf: Did ya bring da Sparc to Abduction for da reason that ya could like increase that appreciation or sump'n?

TF: Yeah. Now that lamers usually mean PC when they reckon aboot a computer, we've gotta show 'em the other options also.

dRAGONcROW: We took the turbo Amigas with us for the same reason. And then there's also BeBoxes, Macs, Acorns and whatnot...

myXTer: Didn't the BeBox project fail already?

dRAGONcROW: Well, right, I guess they screwed it up. Peecee's got such a dominating position nowadays that it takes some cunnin' to shake it...

wArlord: But could ye show what it's like to use the Sparc? At least there's enough size for the tube.

TF: Yeah, here we've got a 19-inch CRT of Sun's own makin', with a fixed resolution of 1280x1024.

dRAGONcROW: At least it holds enuff shell windows on the screen at the same time. That's what ye use mostly, I reckon...

wArlord: But it's still got some GUI?

TF: Yeah, it's easier when ye get the terminals windowed properly, and that Netscape and other graphical proggies work without problems...

dRAGONcROW: Even on the Amiga, TF always just uses Cshell for starting the proggies and everthang, and there's not even Workbench runnin'...

dArK sTuFfEr: That matches exactly with my practices of Amiga use. Even on Linux, text-based virtual consoles usually suffice very well for me.

TF: Yeah, them graphic widgets may suit well for somebody, but they don't suit to my view of efficient workflow.

mR.mEgAsTuFf: But I guess it's still got some damn fast graphics in case ya sometimes need 'em?

TF: Well, they're fast enuff. The framebuffer is a CG-six, so it's got a blitter, in CG-three there's not...

DRBLOOD: Well, it ain't lookin' very fast even compared to an Amiga.

TF: Well, it's in the 256-color mode and the resolution is big enuff to make even some hundred-kilo blits look like small twiddlin'...

DATAPIMP: So, if ye plan to do some threedee graphics for it, ye should first put in some smaller resolution.

TF: Well, ye can't even get this monitor to another resolution, 'cause it's fixedsync.

mR.mEgAsTuFf: Huh? Such a big tube and only supports one resolution?

TF: Well, even the framebuffer doesn't support smaller than 1152x900...

mR.mEgAsTuFf: Ya mean for real, that's da fuckin' SMALLEST resolution that one even fuckin' SUPPORTS?

TF: Yeah, professional workstations are like that. Video professionals use different workstations -

DATAPIMP: Well, I guess ye hafta forget aboot makin' demos for that, if so much power gets wasted in gettin' the pixels bigger!

TF: Yeah, if we planned to make a demo, we should maybe buy the LEO graphics card. It'd compute nearly a million vectors a second -

DRBLOOD: Sounds just like some peecee, not bein'g able to make demos before buyin' some helluva over-the-top card first.

DATAPIMP: I guess it's got at least like two hundred megahertz for the processor to compensate the graphics stupidity...?

TF: Well, actually it's just twenty...

DATAPIMP: Twenty?! Right.

TF: That's a late-eighties Sparc, hey! Just compare to that, twenty MHz used to be a lot -

pHASERhAWK: Yeah, and besides they're RISC megahertzes and no PC or Amiga megahertzes!!

DATAPIMP: So, how fast is it in practice?

TF: Well, it beats some 486 in just aboot everthang...

wArlord: Except that ye could maybe have faster fullscreen graphics on a 486, 'cause the pixels are big enuff already.

TF: Yeah, well, some Silicon Graphics could maybe have some better thought-out adapters for that purpose -

DRBLOOD: Listen to me now, Technie, it feels to me like if Silicon Graphics was an Amiga, then that "Sun" of yours would be a fuckin' Atari.

FUCKSUCKER: Fuckin' yuck, ATARI!!

TF: Sun's actual strengths are in server use, not really workstations -

dRAGONcROW: Yeah, we'd much rather make our demos for an Amiga than a Sun...

DRBLOOD: But you'd also prefer Silicon to Amiga?

TF: Well, if we got some O2 at a cheap price, then it'd be mega-excitin' to make a SGI prod someday...

LAZERCODE: Well, in my experience even SGI is full of all kinda helluva PC crap, at least on the OS side!

TF: Oh, why's that?

LAZERCODE: Once in the Kuopio polytechnic I looked into a kinda SGI to found out what I could do with one.

LAZERCODE: And there's no register-level documentation whatsoever to tap into the SOUL of that computer!

LAZERCODE: All that the OS provided was some OpenGL library made by other folks, and ye'd hafta use it for everthang...

FUCKSUCKER: Yeah, the whole Unix world is just like that! Puttin' everthang into some standard-sizes boxes, just like all the PC crap...

FUCKSUCKER: First, some box says it does a million vecs a sec, and in ten years it says billion, and that's s'posed to be their only difference...

DRBLOOD: And, even when you use Amigas, you dare to brag about some turbo cards and how they've got more and more of the PC-lamer megahertzes!

DRBLOOD: And you're always in a helluva hurry to use up the megahertzes by the time you get more!

LAZERCODE: If y'all just chose one config and stuck to it for at least five years or sump'n, then y'all could maybe find out aboot the deeper stuff -

DATAPIMP: Hey, what happened?

TF: I guess the power went down... Maybe I should take a look at the problem.

...

TF: Right, seems the transformer's given out all of its functional smoke.

dRAGONcROW: Don't start fixin' it tonight anymaw!

TF: Well, we wouldna even have naw light for that.

pHASERhAWK: So, the other compos now got cancelled for good?

TF: Looks a bit like that, yeah.

FUCKSUCKER: But, luckily it also means that the fuckin' Atari show-off ain't gonna continue...

dRAGONcROW: Yeah. But what aboot warmin' up the sauna again? We could finish the meetin' in a bit more traditional way...

FUCKSUCKER: Yeah, agreed.

LAZERCODE: We could also start grillin' the sausage.

== Saunassa ==

LAZERCODE: Hey, Technie, listen...

TF: Whatta?

LAZERCODE: I'm a bit worried aboot how ye so readily agree to serve all kinda irrelevant lamer whims at Picture Planet.

TF: Whaddya mean?

LAZERCODE: Whenever the lamers need more capacity for their badly-coded IRC bots, then ye always just buy it...

DRBLOOD: Yeah, and some fuckin' Pentium peecees on top of that!!

LAZERCODE: Yer the SYSOP of Picture and not a servant for lamers, for the fuck's sake! Ye have the control over yer BBS -

TF: It's not a BBS anymaw, it's an Internet service provider! -

FUCKSUCKER: A damn bad excuse! A drugstore clerk wouldn't sell poison to a customer even if they'd be ready to pay big bucks for it.

TF: Well, I would sell it if I were one! The seller ain't the stupid one, the buyer is...

FUCKSUCKER: Right. Our ethical views differ quite a lot here now.

mINDeAGLE: We have already discussed this dilemma several times within our crew.

mINDeAGLE: Our conclusion was that "selling poison" is acceptable if it opens up the possibility to obtain a status of enlightened dictatorship.

TF: Yeah. I was plannin' to grow Picture Planet to maximum size by collectin' as many users as possible...

TF: And once we'd get into proper WORLD DOMINATION, we'd start to manipulate the lamers to became true elite!

wArlord: I reckon ye'd lose all of yer interest for that ideology by that time...

FUCKSUCKER: I agree, if you hang around in the capitalist scene for like a decade, you won't be able to get out of it so easily.

FUCKSUCKER: You'd have adopted all of their ways of thinking... all of their urges for profit maximization and the dumbing-down-of-people shit...

DRBLOOD: Yeah, I'm sure all the Bilderberg capitalists would've brainwashed you by that time, to believe that there are no alternatives.

FUCKSUCKER: Peecee and capitalism, it's all the same bulldungish crap! Standardize masses of people into same kinda stupid consumers...

DRBLOOD: Yeah. So, if you wanna become some Internet dictator, you should at least hold on tight to those Ultima virtues of yours.

mINDeAGLE: Ultima virtues are a good beginning, but I do not believe they suffice alone.

dRAGONcROW: Oh?

mINDeAGLE: Had Lord British been actually British, he would have probably managed to include moderation in his virtue system.

mINDeAGLE: But, as he is a USAnian technocrat, he cannot accept gluttony and greed as sins, and thus, moderation as a virtue.

FUCKSUCKER: Yeah, fuckin' capitalist zeal for maximization, dammit!

wArlord: It was all the same zeal in the Soviet Union too! At least in the market economy we've got the freedom to choose!

TF: Right that! In Communism they'd just force ye with a gun to use the same peecee junk everywhere -

FUCKSUCKER: It was Socialism in the USSR, not Communism, goddammit! So far, there ain't been a single Communist state -

mINDeAGLE: In my opinion, Capitalism and Socialism are two different manifestations of a single Imperialism...

== Sunnuntai ==

dRAGONcROW: Morning...

TF: So, it's Sunday now. Tomorrow I should get back to work even.

dRAGONcROW: I wonder what's up at Abduction? Who won the compo?

TF: Well, based on the tawks on IRC, Haujobb won the Intro and Zenon won the demo.

mR.mEgAsTuFf: Ya mean Amiga intro and Amiga demo?

TF: Who cares aboot the others...

wArlord: Well, ye could tell the PC compo winners too!

TF: Well, seems like Doomrapers won the PC democompo and some unknown Vista won the intro...

mR.mEgAsTuFf: Vista was da crew that made da damn cool Lithium intro for da last Juhla... with that space battle and everything.

dArK sTuFfEr: Lithium has totally substandard code. My 386 spent several seconds calculating some of its frames.

mR.mEgAsTuFf: Well, in Helsinki it worked quite smoothly with dR.cRaXoN's computer...

TF: On IRC they were also tawkin' aboot that the lamers' Quake tournament failed nearly completely, 'cause the Windows just kept crashin'...

wArlord: Well, is it a news that Windows crashes?

TF: Well, now they crashed a bit more, 'cause I heard they released a piece of code called winnuke.c over the weekend.

wArlord: So, what does that do then?

TF: I heard it can crash any Windows over TCP/IP!

wArlord: Really?

TF: I mean ye like sent a broken TCP packet to a Windows box and then it knock outs the entire system...

mR.mEgAsTuFf: Bwahahah!! That's what all da Windows lamers deserve!!

TF: I heard some folks used the code to bomb the entire party network to crash all the Windows boxes on it...

TF: And they managed to have the Quake tournament only after makin' a separate network for it.

mR.mEgAsTuFf: Bwahahahh!! That'd be like our ULTIMATE SECRET WEAPON against all the Windows and Quake lamerz!!

dArK sTuFfEr: Indeed.

...

TF: Are we ready to take off already?

dArK sTuFfEr: At least I am perfectly ready.

FUCKSUCKER: Your floppybox looks familiar...

dArK sTuFfEr: I thought it would.

FUCKSUCKER: I'd be interested in taking some of the floppies to myself after the Pirttimäki exposure.

dArK sTuFfEr: I was about to suggest myself that the floppies would be shared for analysis between CGK and CWU.

dRAGONcROW: Are ye sure yer in a drivin' condition, Technie?

TF: Feelin' a bit dizzy...

DATAPIMP: I could maybe drive up to Pirttimäki, if Technie still needs time to sober up.

TF: Allrighty then, be the driver. How far's that Pirttimäki place?

dRAGONcROW: Well, it's maybe ten kilometers there at most...

wArlord: It's much closer! The Levälahti bridge's just a few clicks from here, and Pirttimäki starts right after the bridge.

mINDeAGLE: It is still another several kilometers to the Hut from the Levälahti bridge.

wArlord: Well, still far less than ten clicks total from here.

TF: But what aboot startin' off already?

dRAGONcROW: I guess the Saab could get the lead once again, 'cause Juho knows the way best...

mINDeAGLE: Affirmative, I can function as your wayleader.

TF: Allright then! Let's get goin'!

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