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DaTE:     1996-08-19 aT 12:15

LoCATi0N: aTK-LUoKKA, LiETeVeDeN yLÄaSTE, LiEtEvEdEn KiRkOnKYLä, FiNLAND

PrESeNT:  OH7MO (oUR ELiTE tEACHeR, mR.mEgAsTuFf's uNCLe)
          CWU MEMBAHZ:  mR.mEgAsTuFf * wArlord * DaRk FuCKeR *
                        dArK sTuFfEr * myXTer
          + sEvErAL LaMeRZ, aNd L8tER EvEN M0r3!!!
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EERO:
 This hear rear computer's for me and Masa only!

KIMMO:
 Oh, s-sorry...

OH7MO:
 Has everbody already found seats for themself?

SANNA:
 Yeah...

PIIA:
 There's three of us here, and some others get to be pairs!!

MILLA:
 Yeah, so unfair!!

MIKKO:
 Why did we need to combine the groups? I reckon ye should've
plenty of time for more classes...

OH7MO:
 We did reckon a bit aboot keepin' the old groups but then we
decided to put the effort in the club activity.

OH7MO:
 After all, I'm only bein' paid for the computer classes for
these two groups, and the rest I'm doin' for free -

MIKAEL:
 Why are ye keepin' the post as our computer teacher anyway?
Arto would have the qualification!!

OH7MO:
 Arto has all the math and natural-science groups, and even biology
now, so his workin' hours got already full from 'em...

DaRK FuCKeR:
 Ain't Tuula a teacher anymaw??

OH7MO:
 We've only got five permanent teachers in the junior high now, and
then there's me helpin' with 'em computer thangs.

MIKAEL:
 It's gonna be six once Rauno gets outta his sickleave!!

OH7MO:
 Yeah, right, they couldna fire him because of the sickleave.
In that case, the groups might change a bit, yeah.

MIKAEL:
 And the unqualified replacements would be fired!!

ELINA:
 Hey teacher, could we skip the break so we get home earlier?

OH7MO:
 Well, let's see -

MIKAEL:
 Rauno would've let us skip the break!

OH7MO:
 I'm just reckonin' aboot that we've got the computer club straight
after the computer class...

ELINA:
 I wanna get home as quickly as I can, and not stay in some
computer club!!

MIKAEL:
 Likewise!! Besides, I reckon everbody's already got better gear
at home than these 386 flupumps!! It's useless to stay-

EERO:
 I reckon ye mean, evrebody's who's even interested in that stuff...

MIKAEL:
 Well, yeah, right.

MIKKO:
 Who's arrangin' the club?

OH7MO:
 I am, and the Hautataipale boys be helpin' with it...

MIKAEL:
 So, there's nobody there who even gets any modern-day computin'!!

MIKKO:
 Yeah, right!!

OH7MO:
 Don't debunk it yet...

mR.mEgAsTuFf:
 Listen to me now, our stuff in da club's gonna be so advanced that yar
kinda Windows Pentium losers ain't even heard 'bout it!!

wArlord:
 Right, I don't reckon even Mikael's got a FIXED-LINE INTERNET
CONNECTION at home, and we're gonna get one next month in this classroom...

MIKAEL:
 So, a fixed-line Internet connection, with these flupumps??
Pull the other one!! That'd actually require at least -

mR.mEgAsTuFf:
 Fuck's sake, a fixed Internet won't require nuffin' from a computer,
if ya do yar stuff da ELiTE way instead of da lame way!

dArK sTuFfEr:
 Indeed. Even the resources of an Amiga 500 suffice excellently for
the full-scale use of the Internet.

MIKAEL:
 Phew-ew, how clueless y'all are!!

wArlord:
 Yer tone's gonna change for sure, once ye get to try it yerself...

MIKAEL:
 I doubt that! Proper Internet requires at least Windows 95 and
Internet Explorer three, too much for these flupumps to handle!!

mR.mEgAsTuFf:
 And what's da essential stuff for yar "proper Internet" in those
shitsofts, ya fuckin' clown?

MIKAEL:
 All the modern WWW sites use frames and Java and ActiveX... the
pages show all wrong if the browser doesn't support 'em!!

MIKAEL:
 In a 386 ye can only run some shitty Lynx, that doesn't even
support pictures, not to mention any modern-day animated GIFs!!!

mR.mEgAsTuFf:
 Fuckin' clown, NO SELF-RESPECTIN' NET USER doesn't wanna look at
some fuckin' puke-colored background pics!!

dArK sTuFfEr:
 The essential thing in the Internet is the information, and useless
Java applets and GIF animations have zero information value.

wArlord:
 And I guess Mikael's mawdem makes ye wait many minutes while
the "modern-day" sites load...

MIKAEL:
 Good and modern sites are always worth waitin' for!

dArK sTuFfEr:
 Actually it is more essential to finish the desired activities as
quickly as possible and with minimal use of resources.

MIKAEL:
 That's just yer own super-old-fashioned opinion!!

dArK sTuFfEr:
 I intend to hold to my opinion to my death, as I think is the truth.

MIKAEL:
 Well, yer opinion would really change, if ye got once to try out
the PROPER Internet with a PROPER Pentium!!

mR.mEgAsTuFf:
 And who even fuckin' voluntarily uses some fuckin' WWW? IRC,
newsgroups and FTP are where da REAL DEAL is!

MIKAEL:
 Well, even IRC's dull and ancient compared to the modern Windows
95 programs such as MICROSOFT CHAT!!

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wArlord:
 Bloody hell, mister Pentium expert... let's now stack up the
facts, what makes yer MICROSOFT CHAT better than IRC?

MIKAEL:
 Well, first of all, ye ain't limited to some dull text, ye
can chat graphically, in pictures...

MIKAEL:
 It's got a kinda cool comics mode, that's SURELY outta the reach
of any 386!! If y'all only saw -

mR.mEgAsTuFf:
 Fuck's sake man, yar SUCH AN UNBELIEVABLE CLOWN, DAMMIT!!

mR.mEgAsTuFf:
 For real, ya think some COMICS MODE is cooler than some scriptin'
features, bots or global server nets...

dArK sTuFfEr:
 I think you cannot say you have even tried the Internet properly,
before you have spent at least 24 hours straight on the IRC.

wArlord:
 Yeah, the fixed net's a bit different thang from tryin' out
some IRC or Netscape for an hour...

DaRK FuCKeR:
 Yeah, it's entirely different world with the fixed net, when ye
don't hafta count the minutes!!

OH7MO:
 We were actually reckonin' aboot this with the headmaster, that
a fixed Internet's a better investment than some processor upgrades.

MIKKO:
 So, y'all planned to upgrade these computers but y'all didn't?

OH7MO:
 Well, we planned aboot it a little bit but then thought we would
be havin' to upgrade soon again if we took that route.

OH7MO:
 Fixed-line Internet would gives a ten-year lead to the other
little villages, so we wouldn't need to do upgrades in that time -

MIKAEL:
 The headmaster should've asked Rauno or at least Arto first!

OH7MO:
 Arto was actually agreein' with me, and the town wouldn't even have
the money to buy any Pentiums.

MIKKO:
 Ain't the fixed Internets a lot more expensive than Pentiums?

OH7MO:
 Well, I've got some relations with the Pielavesi phone company
and some of my own know-how, but no such relations with Intel...

OH7MO:
 But if somebody of y'all wants to show us those Pentium multimedias
at a class, yer freely allowed to bring yer computer here.

DaRK FuCKeR:
 For real??

OH7MO:
 Yeah, we tawked aboot this a bit too with Aarne.

DaRK FuCKeR:
 I'm gonna get a new computer for myself soon!! A hundred-megahertz
486!! It'd be so fun to bring it here!!

dArK sTuFfEr:
 In that case, I am going to bring my Amiga 1200 here in order to
prove that many features are more important than the CPU clock rate.

OH7MO:
 And I guess Mikael would also like to bring his computer.

MIKAEL:
 Yeah, y'all would see a proper Windows at least once in yer
lifetime!!

mR.mEgAsTuFf:
 Yeah, and ya would see at least one proper demo...

OH7MO:
 Yeah, y'all could like show us them demos y'all went to watch
there at the Helsinki Assembly.

mR.mEgAsTuFf:
 We actually missed da democompo, 'cause we got such a terrible
hangover in the morning, from the MAHTI kilju...

wArlord:
 Well, you missed it, I actually watched the PC demo too...

mR.mEgAsTuFf:
 Whatta fuck? Ya should've woken me up!!

wArlord:
 Well, I tried, but ye just mumbled sump'n there all passed out,
and all the MAHTI members too ...

mR.mEgAsTuFf:
 Fuck's sake dammit!

DaRK FuCKeR:
 Hey, Osmo, can we get to turn the computers on already?

OH7MO:
 Oh, yeah, right, y'all can freely start 'em anytime, y'all got
my permission...

DaRK FuCKeR:
 Yeah!!!

OH7MO:
 But speakin' of Assembly, I could tell a bit aboot what kinda
curriculum I've been plannin' for this year.

MIKAEL:
 Ain't ye followin' the official curriculum??

OH7MO:
 The curriculums are school-specific. So, I've now got all the
responsibility for the Lietevesi computer classes.

MIKAEL:
 Hey, this computer's got some problem! It dinna start bootin'
up Windows...

OH7MO:
 Yeah, we took out the forced Windows start-up. Ye can always
start it separetly if ye need it...

MIKAEL:
 So, our computer classes are gonna be pure DOS crap this year??

OH7MO:
 Well, we were plannin' to learn a bit aboot Unix too, once we
get the Internet link first...

MIKAEL:
 Unix?!? Goodbye to modern days!!

OH7MO:
 I've got the kinda principle in teachin', that ye should concentrate
on the stuff that's kept steady for a longer time.

OH7MO:
 DOS and Unix have kept practically same for them fifteen years, so
they're surely gonna stay that way for the next fifteen years too...

OH7MO:
 Besides, once the fixed Internet gets more common in the future,
it's prolly gonna make Unix more popular and forget the Windows.

MIKAEL:
 I don't believe that!

OH7MO:
 But afore we get to the Internet and Unix, we should properly learn
the basics first.

OH7MO:
 We studied computer tech a bit last year, but this year we're
plannin' to get a lot deeper than that.

OH7MO:
 Digital logic, assembly and machine language, Ethernet, IP and other
network protocols...

OH7MO:
 Yer gonna learn the ways how the toughest computer experts use the
computer!

OH7MO:
 Is everbody's computer already on?

OH7MO:
 So, let's type a command called 
DEBUG
... David Echo Bravo
Uniform Golf, and press enter...

OH7MO:
 A debug monitor is enough for the toughest computer experts.
They can use it to build everthang they need...

...

OH7MO:
 So, show me what's y'all got in the memory, starting from 0100...

OH7MO:
 Not with U but with D, as in dump. We wanna see the strings...

SANNA:
 Oh, right. Ye mean like this?

OH7MO:
 Yeah... there's the string of yers in the memory, startin' right
there at 0100, but ends with the dollar sign just as it should.

OH7MO:
 Is the machine code part startin' straight after that then?

SANNA:
 Well, I guess ye know better, 'cause ye gave the instructions...

OH7MO:
 Well, let's check it out then.

OH7MO:
 F, E, D, C, B, A... zero-one-one-A. Show me the U-dump startin'
from the address zero-one-one-A.

SANNA:
 Okey...

OH7MO:
 So, there's it startin'. It's just the way it should, but the
string start address is wrong...

ELINA:
 Ye said what?

OH7MO:
 That line, MOV DX, 0109...

SANNA:
 What's we gonna put there instead of it then?

OH7MO:
 Well, in what address did yer string start at?

ELINA:
 I ain't gettin' this stuff at all...

SANNA:
 Was it that 0100?

OH7MO:
 Exactly. So, y'all hafta rewrite the first machine-code instruction.
D'y'all recall the command to write 'em there with?

SANNA:
 I don't recall...

OH7MO:
 It's A, followed with the address...

SANNA:
 Ye mean like this? A011A?

OH7MO:
 Right, just like that. And then give the new assembly instruction,
MOV DX,0100.

SANNA:
 Like this ye mean?

OH7MO:
 Yeah.

OH7MO:
 And press enter another time to get back to the main mode...

OH7MO:
 And now it should start with the G command, if y'all start from the
location of the MOV instruction...

SANNA:
 Like that? Gee equals 011A?

OH7MO:
 Yeah, just like that, now press enter.

SANNA:
 Now it worked right!!

ELINA:
 I still ain't gettin' nuffin aboot this...

ELINA:
 And besides, it's two o'clock already!! Ye should let us home
already!!

OH7MO:
 Oh, right, the time's up already... Well, y'all can get out if y'all
like.

OH7MO:
 But the computer club's gonna start after this! So, everbody
who wants to continue learning the assembly language...

OH7MO:
 Oh, so it's only y'all now.

wArlord:
 Well, we might be gettin' some eight- or seven-graders here
still...

OH7MO:
 But anyway! And I tried to make the class as interesting as
possible...

mR.mEgAsTuFf:
 Well, so ya ACTUALLY tried to make the class INTERESTING, and then
we're just twistin' some ASM with some fuckin' DEBUG.COM??

OH7MO:
 Well, I reckoned that Assembly would be hot among the youngsters,
'cause there were thousands in Helsinki at the convention -

mR.mEgAsTuFf:
 Assembly ain't a fuckin' asm codin' event dammit! At least nowadays...

wArlord:
 Well, I guess many of the folks there don't even know what asm
coding is... it ain't hot stuff among today's youngsters anymaw.

OH7MO:
 Oh, well, so I guess I misunderstood sump'n then.

mR.mEgAsTuFf:
 It's all okay to teach asm, right, but there are much more advanced
debuggers in the world than some fuckin' DEBUG!!

OH7MO:
 But DEBUG is simpler, 'cause there's nuffin' extra in it, easier
to concentrate on the essentials...

mR.mEgAsTuFf:
 Fine job with da essentials then, ya wasted most of the time for
explainin' how to read the memory and stuff!

wArlord:
 And the computers hung up all the time, when the folks forgot to
put in that INT 20, or jumped to wrong places with the G command...

OH7MO:
 Well, at least it teaches ye strictness, when ye hafta rewrite
everthang after a mistake! Back in the seventies, with Telmac -

AARNE:
 G'day to the classroom...

OH7MO:
 G'day.

AARNE:
 So, the computer club's startin' quite soon, or has it already
started?

OH7MO:
 We're waitin' for the seventh and eighth graders, if there's
somebody of 'em even comin'...

AARNE:
 Well, we're gonna see that soon.

wArlord:
 I'm a bit worried if they're even interested very much...

mR.mEgAsTuFf:
 Well, at least once we get the fixed net here, I guess da room would
get full of all kindsa leechers!

wArlord:
 And IRCers...

mR.mEgAsTuFf:
 But dinna we fuckin' agree not to let them to IRC??

OH7MO:
 We agreed that they should make their own proggies for if they
want it. From the driver and protocol level up, preferrably...

wArlord:
 Sounds quite utopistic, somebody bein' interested in that
so much to go all that way up.

OH7MO:
 Right, I reckoned like that too. We should put a lot of effort to
even keepin' the students interested in spendin' their time here...

DaRK FuCKeR:
 At least I wanna be here all the time!! At least once we get the
fixed internet here!

wArlord:
 So, ye mean even after ye get yer over-the-top 486?

DaRK FuCKeR:
 Well, dunno aboot that really... I guess I'd be more excited aboot
that better computer -

dArK sTuFfEr:
 "More powerful", not "better".

DaRK FuCKeR:
 Oh, yeah, right, more powerful...

HENCCA:
 So, this is the computer room then?

OH7MO:
 Yeah, please get in if y'all wanna be in the club...

wArlord:
 What's that y'all boys wanna do?

HENCCA:
 Sure they've got network cards? So that we can like play Quake in
the network -

mR.mEgAsTuFf:
 WE AIN'T GONNA PLAY NO FUCKIN' QUAKE OR OTHER GAMES IN OUR CLUB,
DAMMIT!!!

JONETZU:
 Fuck's sake, these computers wouldn't even run Quake, they look
like a bunch of flupumps!!

TEMETZU:
 And fuckin' DOS in all of 'em!! I bet they're some
twenty-megahertz PIECES OF SHIT!!

HENCCA:
 Yeah, let's get out, we can't do no sensible stuff here.

VIHTORI:
 Ain't y'all interested in that fixed internet even??

HENCCA:
 Them flupumps ain't worth nuffin' in the internet, no matter
how fixed it is!!!

TEMETZU:
 Yeah, right!!

OH7MO:
 ...

wArlord:
 Right, so much for that hope for the future.

mR.mEgAsTuFf:
 They've surely listened Mikael's propaganda carefully, dammit...

VIHTORI:
 They feel like quite hopeless cases, but they've been the only
ones so far who've been even slightly interested...

wArlord:
 The nature of lameness is really gotten quite different.

mR.mEgAsTuFf:
 Yeah, we never had that kinda prejudices in da seventh grade!!

dArK sTuFfEr:
 Not indeed. We now have to spend plenty of resources in overcoming
the prejudices of the modern youth.

dArK sTuFfEr:
 Giving them a path for self-improvement is not enough. We should
also actively show them the light.

DaRK FuCKeR:
 Yeah! We could like show all kindsa demos to them, and stuff!!

wArlord:
 It'd of course be the best to show them from a big screen and
big speakers...

DaRK FuCKeR:
 Yeah, that'd really show 'em where the chicken pees from!!

mR.mEgAsTuFf:
 So d'ya mean we should fuckin' organize a fuckin' party for 'em,
damit??

wArlord:
 No, just have a kinda hour-or-two screenin' of some tough demos...

mR.mEgAsTuFf:
 That'd be a helluva job to haul some projector and amp and some
man-sized speakers in just for some two-hour demoshow!!

mR.mEgAsTuFf:
 Especially if nobody even came there after Mikael had made everybody
believe that demos are total crap!

AARNE:
 Well, if y'all wanna so sump'n to the whole school, then that could
even work from within the mandatory curriculum...

dArK sTuFfEr:
 It would be very alarming if people did not voluntarily attend our
educational event.

mR.mEgAsTuFf:
 Well, my minimum requireent is that if we ever do something like that,
it's gotta be MANDATORY for the WHOLE SCHOOL, dammit!!

AARNE:
 I guess 'em computer graphics could best fit in with the art
curriculum...

mR.mEgAsTuFf:
 But I'd rather organize a whole-weekend party than have that kinda
effort just for some local lamers!

dArK sTuFfEr:
 Affirmative. We could organise the party primarily for the scene,
so we would not have to concentrate on the lameness of the locals.

dArK sTuFfEr:
 Local lamers would visit the party anyway, at least if we gave them
the chance to connect their computers to a local area network.

mR.mEgAsTuFf:
 WHATTA FUCK!? WE AIN'T GONNA HAVE A FUCKIN' LAN IN OUR PARTY, DAMMIT!!

wArlord:
 I'd prefer to drop the LAN myself, but that'd be only way to
get some of the Wintendo gang in the party...

DaRK FuCKeR:
 Could we also connect the LAN to the Internet? Like, from that
CWUnet link of ours?

mR.mEgAsTuFf:
 WE ESPECIALLY AIN'T FUCKIN' GONNA SPOIL CWUNET'S FAME DAMMIT!!

DaRK FuCKeR:
 Heck, I reckon that'd be the toughest thang ever!! Not even all
city-dweller parties got a fixed net!!

dArK sTuFfEr:
 Maybe we could only allow external connections to a few specific ports.

wArlord:
 Ye could always do workaround, like by puttin' a proxy on some
shell machine...

dArK sTuFfEr:
 But that requires specific skill and would therefore encourage the
lamers to acquire it.

wArlord:
 Yeah, well, right.

AARNE:
 We've already used all of our available money for this school
year. We should arrange some more from the town council...

wArlord:
 I guess we could cover the expenses with entrance fees? It's
usually sump'n like fifty or hundred marks for the weekend at parties.

AARNE:
 We should still borrow some money from the council. But at least
we could sell that idea to them much more easily.

wArlord:
 Yeah, ye absolutely should say many times over that the party's
gonna pay itself back many times, to convince the Centre members.

mR.mEgAsTuFf:
 Da adults in da town surely got da money for that, 'coz they're
buyin' Pentiums for their kids and all...

dArK sTuFfEr:
 But what if a child from a poor family would like to visit the party?

mR.mEgAsTuFf:
 Well, maybe we should make it free to just watch da compos, but if
ya wanna in earlier or with yar computer ya'd hafta pay.

dArK sTuFfEr:
 This sounds like a working solution to me.

wArlord:
 But the entrance fees should be like at real parties, to get
some proper prize money from the extras.

mR.mEgAsTuFf:
 Yeah, it'd be kewl to have some Cyrbion or Doomrapers and other
tuff crews there, reachin' for da compo money.

dArK sTuFfEr:
 Indeed. Local lamers would feel so insignificant compared to them
that their motivation for self-improvement would get a real boost.

mR.mEgAsTuFf:
 Right! This is actually startin' to sound like a damn good idea!

AARNE:
 I'm not really gettin' what y'all plan to arrange, but I guess
Osmo can explain it to me in the adult language.

OH7MO:
 Well, I can of course try.

DaRK FuCKeR:
 YEAAHH!! WE'RE GONNA ORGANIZE OUR OWN DEMOPARTY!! IN LIETEVESI!!
THIS IS SO EXCITING!!!!

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