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--==oO==-- cHAOS wORLD uNKNOWN -[]- history file #0x4B --==Oo==--

date .......... sat 1995-09-30 at about 17:30

location ...... cHAOS wORLD uNKNOWN headquarters
                (kHANATIK's apartment at hautataipale lietevesi)

present ....... kHanatik   / cHAOS wORLD uNKNOWN
                wHitedodge / cHAOS wORLD uNKNOWN
                [also doubles as: WaRe FuCKER / C00LeS WaReZ UNiON]

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kHanatik: Good evening.

wHitedodge: Howdy...

kHanatik: In principle we should now have a united Chaos meeting, but nEopardy ja wArlord did not manage to be here.

wHitedodge: That's nuffin', it was just me and Mega at the Cooles meeting yesterday too!

kHanatik: I guess that you were planning for a vengeance?

wHitedodge: Yeah, we were tryin' to reckon' sump'n for that...

kHanatik: Are there new "pranx" being planned against us in the computer classroom?

wHitedodge: Not at least yet, 'cause we've gotta first learn to make proper trojans afore we get back into there!

kHanatik: But could you not persuade mR.mEgAsTuFf that you could go there to remove the remaining traps that have not gone off yet?

wHitedodge: Oh, there's still some here? How would I know aboot such? I just heard of 'em now...

kHanatik: Well, you could ponder, for example, that there might be some, and thus make mR.mEgAsTuFf worried.

wHitedodge: He's always keepin' that there key in a good safe anyway. Could be a good idea that!

wHitedodge: 'Cause Rauno would've been sure to find it in that there body check on Wednesday, if Mega had been carryin' it aroond all the time!!

kHanatik: The hiding place is probably somewhere in his room. I did not manage to find it during his birthday party, however.

wHitedodge: Oh, ye were tryin' to find it there! Well, guess it's then there in that cabinet of his that's always locked!

kHanatik: So, we could perhaps break into Lahnala during the autumnal holiday and find the key there.

wHitedodge: He might actually get it with him to Helsinki...

wHitedodge: He's started to prepare himself for just aboot everythang that y'all, or I mean we, might do to him!!

kHanatik: Good observation. It is indeed becoming slightly difficult now.

wHitedodge: Especially now that my oobes ain't been workin' for ages anymaw...

wHitedodge: But who cares aboot that anyhow 'cause ye don't believe that either anymaw...

kHanatik: Do you really imagine that I would not believe?

wHitedodge: But wasna it in the last week's meetin' -

kHanatik: I was obliged to get us back to agreement at the time.

kHanatik: And it was actually even my plan to talk a little bit about magick with you... and also a bit about the nature of reality.

wHitedodge: Yeah, ain't that cool!!!

kHanatik: Let us begin with the fact that things are true in reality because and only because that they are being believed in.

kHanatik: If, for example, the whole village ceases to believe in the existence of your family's Datsun, it will cease to exist.

wHitedodge: Whatta hell? Ain't soundin' like terribly believable that there now!!

wHitedodge: I could like stop believin' in ye and then ye wouldna exist there anymaw?

kHanatik: Well, there are other people in this world as well who believe in my existence. You would have to convince all of them.

wHitedodge: Oh, right!!!

wHitedodge: But, err, if I like put some pencil in some box and nobody else knew that it's there?

wHitedodge: And then if I started to believe that it's somewhere else, then would it like move to that there somewhere else?

kHanatik: If your faith were song enough, then it would.

kHanatik: But a strong faith here means a truly cosmically strong faith and not any Christian creed!

wHitedodge: Well, okey then!

wHitedodge: But how's this now related to anythang anyhow??

kHanatik: Your astral projection experiment succeeded because you believed in it, and it was also true because you believed in it.

kHanatik: wArlord does not believe in astral projection, however - he has locked it out of his own world.

kHanatik: It therefore does not happen in his world.

wHitedodge: Err, ye mean then that thangs would like be true and false at the same time??

wHitedodge: And no matter how I'd try to prove it to Jussi it wouldna work or anythang?

kHanatik: For wArlord, the events would take always place in ways such that they can be explained from his own paradigm of reality.

wHitedodge: But I mean, err...

wHitedodge: What if I like believed some kinda unbelievable spell onto him!!! Like conjure up some demon to his backyard?

wHitedodge: What would happen then?

kHanatik: Then there would be a conflict between reality paradigms, and the consequences would probably be worrisome, maybe even destructive.

kHanatik: For this reason, magick should be tried to practice in ways such that it will not shake the majority view of reality.

wHitedodge: So, it was actually like good that Reijo's dick wasna blowin' up?

kHanatik: Yes. A suddenly exploding penis would have surely been against the reality paradigms of everyone present in the area.

kHanatik: Impotence resulting from illusionary beliefs, on the other hand, is something anyone can easily believe in.

wHitedodge: So, our ritualities worked nevertheless but just secretly like that!!!

kHanatik: Yes.

wHitedodge: Wowww, it's so kewl thang!!

kHanatik: I have noticed that you have the strongest belief among the members of our group.

kHanatik: You are able to believe in things in a much stronger intensity than the others, which gives you the potential for very powerful magick.

wHitedodge: WOWWW!!! IS THAT TRUE!!!

kHanatik: You should therefore understand that it is you and no one else who needs to continue the astral projection experiments.

kHanatik: You have enough power to be able to throw the key far enough for mR.mEgAsTuFf not to find it prior to leaving for the autumnal holiday.

wHitedodge: Right...

kHanatik: However, we will only get the final confirmation of your magical talent after your test period is over.

wHitedodge: So, next week in that summit between Cooles and Chaos?

kHanatik: Yes.

kHanatik: And remember: I shall be the one who reveals your Chaos membership.

kHanatik: If you give a slightest hint about it prior to this, then all the members of Chaos will deny you ever having been a member!

wHitedodge: Yeah, I do understand... and I believe at like a helluva full power that I'm gonna keep my poker face for the whole summit!!!

kHanatik: I am also believing in it as strongly as I ever possibly can.

wHitedodge: Yeah!!!

kHanatik: Once you have finished your test period, you will enjoy the full trust by our group.

kHanatik: You will then get to practice your skills with MindBuilder and other Amiga-only software.

kHanatik: In this way, you could maybe even develop into the strongest magickian in the whole world.

wHitedodge: Wowww!!!

wHitedodge: Heyy, could ye pleeze show me what yer been doin' with that there Amiga of yers?

kHanatik: As you have probably noticed, DECREPiTUDE has not been on-line lately.

kHanatik: The reason is that I am going to start using the Amiga as the BBS machine now that nothing obligates me to use PCBoard anymore.

wHitedodge: I'm sure Amiga's got like helluva bunch tuffer board softs than peecee!!!

kHanatik: Affirmative. Although Linux would probably serve the same purpose, but Amiga has a higher occult relevance.

wHitedodge: Is DECREPiTUDE then gonna become even more occult than afore??

kHanatik: Affirmative, all the prior users, apart from a few extremely well selected ones, will be removed from the system.

kHanatik: The users registering after this will have to pass a particularly strict NUV.

kHanatik: We will not accept users whose occult faith is not strong enough, since DECREPITUDE will become the central hub of all the magickians of the 97X area.

wHitedodge: Wowww!!! Could I getta be there too then??

kHanatik: Only after finishing your test period and passing some basic prerequisites.

wHitedodge: Okey, I do believe then that I'm gonna pass it!!

kHanatik: I am naturally also keeping my PC running Linux, so you can reach me through it as well if you need to.

wHitedodge: Righty! And hey, by the way...

kHanatik: What is that?

wHitedodge: Couldye pleeze pleeze show me that there MindBuilder??? Pleeze pleeze, even for a tiny glance!!!

kHanatik: I believe I can demonstrate it for you. Let us start it up then...

wHitedodge: It looks so damn exciting, that there soft!!!

kHanatik: Perhaps the most important feature in MindBuilder is the brain stimulation.

kHanatik: Visual effects and sounds synchronised to different frequencies activate specific subcircuitry in the brain while inactivating others.

wHitedodge: I reckon there's nuffin' dangerous happenin' to me now that I saw that flashin' fx??

kHanatik: I do not believe anything to happen so quickly. Besides, proper concentration is needed when watching it.

kHanatik: If you have headphones on, the binaural beats of the audio side will work better. The software also supports LED glasses and an EEG headset.

kHanatik: These supplemental apparati are by no means obligatory, however.

wHitedodge: Could ye, in principle, like err, like for example turn off the sense of sight from somebody?

kHanatik: Yes, in theory, if you find the optimal frequencies and modulations. But the optimal settings somewhat depend on the person -

wHitedodge: I was just reckonin' that could we like make that there Rauno blind?

wHitedodge: If we put some kinda proper fx flashing' there in the teacher's computer...

kHanatik: I do not know if an accurate enough synchronisation is possible with the PC.

kHanatik: Besinds, finding suitable frequencies for such a specific stimulation would require weeks of research and tuning.

kHanatik: I myself have only been able to find well-compatible settings for the gamma and delta stimulation of myself...

wHitedodge: Could I then get to find compatible frequencies for me too there?

kHanatik: Affirmative, we can make a dedicated settings file for you.

kHanatik: Using the functions here in the bottom, it is possible to create exercise programs for oneself and to monitor one's progress.

kHanatik: With the functions in the middle, one can test and practice more specific kind of skills such as telekinesis and telepathy -

wHitedodge: Woww, I'd like to have sump'n like that too!!!

wHitedodge: So I could like move all kinda items with the power of thought, wow!!!

kHanatik: The telekinesis exercise here works actually quite well.

kHanatik: There is now a randomly moving sprite on the screen. It is possible to affect the random number generator with the power of thought.

kHanatik: I can already quite well move the sprite alternately to the right and left side...

wHitedodge: But would that then work in the real life also??

kHanatik: It is of course beneficial to test the skill with real objects as well.

kHanatik: So far I have not been able to move anything physical, so I have been strengthening myself merely with sprite movements so far.

wHitedodge: Couldye pleeze pleeze lemme here test it here a little bit -

kHanatik: Only after you have passed the test period.

wHitedodge: Okey! I can't wait anymaw, I'm so excited!!

wHitedodge: And hey, by the way, what for is yer peecee harddisk cracklin' all the time even if there's nuffin' goin' on? And ye ain't even got yer board on?

kHanatik: Well...

kHanatik: This is another secret that will be revealed to you after your test period.

wHitedodge: Yeah!!!

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