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========= C00LeS WaReZ UNiON * HiSToRiCaL mEmOiRZ * cHApTeR #0x2A =========

DaTE:     1995-03-11 aT aBoUT 15:00

LoCATi0N: dA hUT oF oH7Mo, hAUtAtAIpALE, LieteVedEN kUnTA, FiNLAND

PrESeNT:  mR.mEgAsTuFf / CWU
          dArK sTuFfEr / CWU
          WoRLD HeR0 / CWU
	  oSMo "oH7Mo" kÄRkkÄiNeN / sOmE tRUe oLDsCHOOL RaDIO cLuB

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OH7MO: I s'pose Jyri hain't been here afore...

dArK sTuFfEr: Right, I hain't.

OH7MO: Ye hafta look then a bit where ye step or touch, 'cause ye never know where's some voltage goin'...

dArK sTuFfEr: Okey, I'll try to look a bit.

OH7MO: I've heard that Reijo put up some real chase after y'all.

mR.mEgAsTuFf: Yeah, and helluva preachery even after that.

mR.mEgAsTuFf: There were fuckin' cops visiting our classes for da whole week givin' us some threats!

mR.mEgAsTuFf: And all kindsa young people's psychiatrist and some fuckin' helper groups givin' even more threats!

OH7MO: Well, that's the way how the system works, ye'll get forced into the pattern if ye don't go otherwise.

OH7MO: And y'all should be really wary of that there Reijo. He may seem a bit simple but he's actually one damn kiero** and ovela** fella.

mR.mEgAsTuFf: Yeah, I've seen it...

OH7MO: Reijo is also one of us radio folks, so he knows aboot some technics as well, even if it seems like he's a full hillbilly like the other heads-of-household.

mR.mEgAsTuFf: Whatta fuck, he's never mentioned a word 'bout that!! Was he also in that radio club in the town school?

OH7MO: Naw, he's from Juankoski, y'know, and only moved to Lietevesi as an adult with his family...

OH7MO: And he's besides them ten years older than me, so we wouldna have been in that school club at the same time anyway.

OH7MO: But I've actually been QSOing'with him already in the middle school.

WoRLD HeR0: QSOing?

OH7MO: Y'know, Q-S-O, a connection... a ham term... I've been on the radio frequencies at the same time and communicated to him...

WoRLD HeR0: Board-calling is also called QSOing...

OH7MO: Yeah, that's it as well, in principle...

mR.mEgAsTuFf: We're actually now interested in one specific thing 'bout that pre-history of yars.

OH7MO: What's that?

mR.mEgAsTuFf: There's an Amiga crew called cULT oF pOWER that gave us kinda trainin' sessions during the skiing holiday, and they mentioned yar handle...

OH7MO: They mentioned what?

mR.mEgAsTuFf: That OH7MO...

OH7MO: Ouh, my callsign... what's between them and me?

mR.mEgAsTuFf: They said ya had a kinda profound effect to all the later crews in that school, and that ya might know 'bout something important.

OH7MO: Well, I got to be the leader of the school's radio club during my middle-school times.

OH7MO: It was the time when microprocessors were a new thang, and all the radio and electronics folks were all zealed up 'bout how they're gonna turn the world around.

dArK sTuFfEr: Did y'all have some computers there also?

OH7MO: Not yet in my middle-school times, but when I was goin' to high school in Pielavesi, there was a computer DIY kit called Telmac that came to the market...

OH7MO: But nevertheless I sometimes also visited the Lietevesi school's weekend meetings with my Telmac.

OH7MO: It was back in seventy-eight -

mR.mEgAsTuFf: But ya started something important back in yar middle-school times?

OH7MO: Well, I guess I might've started a little bit.

OH7MO: 'Cause I preached to them chaps quite a lot how a new revolution's gonna come, and how we're gonna get out of the system's slavery with microcomputers, get the power back to ourselves and the people, and we'd also be gettin' to expand our consciousness with computers -

WoRLD HeR0: Ye mean, even afore y'all even got any computers there?

OH7MO: Yeah, afore that right the way. They were them middle-schoolers who came after me, who started to build computers.

OH7MO: Telmac was the first one, and then there was also Oscom Nano, and some folks even tried sump'n with some Texas Instrument programmable calculators...

OH7MO: It wasna until the eighties when came them there Sinclair and Commodore toys with everthang ready-mand, and ye dinna need to know nuffin' anymaw.

dArK sTuFfEr: Did they regard ye as some kinda communist 'cause of them there revolution talks?

OH7MO: Well, it was everbody tryin' to make the older generation mad, so I wasna that different in that part.

OH7MO: It was more like that hippie age when ye easily got attention with talks like that... and even girls got interested easily...

dArK sTuFfEr: I also noticed that girls talked to be more than usually once we'd run away the cops...

dArK sTuFfEr: Even them B-group Oona and Milla who're usually really quiet came to chat with me and ask 'bout it and sump'n else too.

OH7MO: Yeah, I guess they're still interested in all kinda reckless stuff.

OH7MO: But I dunno how all them there mysticisms and others draw folks anymaw.

OH7MO: By the way, I don't think I've ever asked ya, Jyri, have ye ever seen UFOs?

mR.mEgAsTuFf: (Fuck's sake, now it starts again...)

dArK sTuFfEr: No, I hain't, apart from dreams...

WoRLD HeR0: I've heard you have.

OH7MO: Yeah, I guess the whole village was laughing at it at some point, 'cause it's so difficult for normal folks to believe in them...

OH7MO: But I've got some UFO experience from my youth. In my middle-school times, there was a ship that landed to our yard at night.

OH7MO: And then there were some bug-eyed littlet men who contacted me during an LSD trip. And on the summer of one high school year then -

mR.mEgAsTuFf: But I still agree with Ritu in that ya've just hallucinated yar whole UFO history, unless ya've just made it up for gettin' laid!

OH7MO: They were actual experiences for rel...

mR.mEgAsTuFf: Ya were already drawin' UFOs on paper as a kid, Ritu told...

OH7MO: That won't yet prove my experiences wrong! I was also drawin' moon rockets because the space age had just come...

OH7MO: Y'know, we've got some real scientific criteria here how to deal with these havainto** and encounters.

OH7MO: I've even been into Finnish UFO Researchers' activity since them there seventies!

mR.mEgAsTuFf: Ya even tried to get us into yar UFO cult when we were on like da first grade!

mR.mEgAsTuFf: Ya put them there lights in yar Volkswagen beetle, and all kindsa flashy devices and wooping sound effects inside it as well, and we were all like WOW, OSMO'S GOT A KNIGHT RIDER CAR, but it was a space car...

mR.mEgAsTuFf: And we dinna realize yet then that ya were tryin' get us infected with yar UFO religion -

OH7MO: Ye always hafta show sump'n to the kids, hey!

OH7MO: But for real, Ritu and Arja also believed in UFOs and humanoids, like quite many others in the sixties and seventies...

WoRLD HeR0: Arja still believes in them... and I don't think you're lying to us, at least deliberately!

dArK sTuFfEr: Didye get any message from them there bug-eyes? Or powers? I mean, why did they come to ye?

OH7MO: I believed then, and a bit nowadays as well, that it was aboot this new technology we'd been gettin' then and today as well.

OH7MO: Like, they're wantin' us to use it for the benefits of this planet and not give the power to the old establishment.

dArK sTuFfEr: But what did they say to ye, concretely?

OH7MO: They were carryin' a kind of device with a flat screen and they showed me some movies, or video clips as y'all would maybe say, showin' parts of my life and future...

dArK sTuFfEr: So, that there message was just for ye then?

OH7MO: I believe that it was for all the world, but on a part dependin' on how I'll get enlightened, interested in the right things and ascend spiritually -

dArK sTuFfEr: But ye dinna get no powers or informations from them when ascendin'?

OH7MO: What for are ye askin'?

dArK sTuFfEr: I've been reckonin' aboot that there Heikki Vornanen, who found us from the Pennanens with his witching rod...

dArK sTuFfEr: I've heard he's of some ancient sage family, and he's got such skills or powers from there.

dArK sTuFfEr: D'ye think Heikki would've had some UFO contacts in his times?

OH7MO: I guess the humanoids only got interested in us once we started to explode atomic bombs.

OH7MO: Like, afore that we were just a backwards bunch of apes, but since them we've become a kind threat at least to our own planet if not others...

dArK sTuFfEr: So, Heikki's powers are sump'n totally else?

OH7MO: I've heard he's like a hundred years old or even more, so he's from a too early generation.

OH7MO: But we did trust in the sixties and seventies that ancient people would've had some secret knowledge we don't have anymaw, and that the Sumers or Atlanteans or Egypteans had maybe got these infos from the humanoids... but I'm still a bit skeptic...

dArK sTuFfEr: Why are ye skeptic?

OH7MO: After all, it's aboot thousands of years here! Ye couldna keep such knowledege as a secret for so long!

OH7MO: If there were some of that for real, say, a kinda meditation technique that gives ye telepathic or telekinetic powers, then it wouldna have taken long afore it got revelaed!

OH7MO: Some folks would've been takin' benefits from it, and the others would've been demanidn' to know aboot it...

dArK sTuFfEr: But where did Heikki's dowsing power come then?

OH7MO: Well, that's a quite commonly known technique that anybody can learn.

dArK sTuFfEr: Why don't they teach at school then if it's so useful?

dArK sTuFfEr: They could train the cops to use the rod on their own, so they wouldna need to wake up the old codger to catch every criminal?

OH7MO: I guess that's 'cause we've got this here science hegemony...

OH7MO: That officially only such things and phenomena exist where ye've got enough evidence, and a sound theory, and the consensus of the scientific community.

OH7MO: Although the lack of evidence doesna mean that sump'n doesna exist, even the rules of logic say it after all.

OH7MO: In witching rod, it's all about geo-radiation -

mR.mEgAsTuFf: I'd still like to return to da computer stuff...

OH7MO: Oh, heheheh, I got into the crackpot zone once again...

OH7MO: What didye have in yer mind?

mR.mEgAsTuFf: Y'know, I don't have a computer at all right now, 'cause it was given to Tim...

OH7MO: So, we've gotta find ye another?

mR.mEgAsTuFf: That'd be cool, so I wouldn't need to use other people's computer every evening!

OH7MO: Yeah, a boy's gotta have a computer of his own, right. I reckon ye don't have a lot of money?

mR.mEgAsTuFf: Something like a hundred marks...

OH7MO: Oh, then we've gotta be careful... what would be the most important thing ye hafta get to do with a computer?

mR.mEgAsTuFf: Callin' with the modem...

OH7MO: Well, that won't need much...

OH7MO: There's at least one surplus CP/M machine in my warehouse. It's one of them Teleste gear that Auditek was sellin' to schools in the eighties.

OH7MO: I was there choosin' them for the Lietevesi school, and I got one of them as a reward for my efforts later on -

mR.mEgAsTuFf: What kinda machine is it?

OH7MO: It's got a Z80 processor, a 5.25" floppy drive, a green-and-black text-only screen, an RS232 ye can hook up with a modem, and it's runnin' CP/M 2.2 as the software, so ye get some quite fine terminal programs like Kermit...

mR.mEgAsTuFf: I would've liked something more modern but maybe that's better than nuffin'... I guess that's enuff for some IRC?

dArK sTuFfEr: But where did ye reckon aboot using it? If ye took it to the Pirinens, then Reijo would take it away as well...

OH7MO: Well, at least it hain't got any resell value, maybe just material value, even though it's a fine machine -

mR.mEgAsTuFf: I fink he'd get it away from me anyway and prohibit me from using it, 'cause he's such a nazi... right, that's not a good idea...

mR.mEgAsTuFf: And it may be not worth to put it in our old house either, 'cause Reijo's told me not visit there either, and he may fuckin' put the house full of traps if he even suspects -

dArK sTuFfEr: What aboot bringin' it to Hönttölä?

OH7MO: Are the electric and phone lines still goin' there?

dArK sTuFfEr: Yeah, they are, we've checked it.

OH7MO: Well, we could actually call some men there to check if the lines are still intact, and if it wouldna take a lot of work to reconnect the lines, then just sign the new contracts...

OH7MO: I can call the electric and phone companies and pay for the connection costs, but the other costs will then get divided among y'all!

mR.mEgAsTuFf: I guess there should be some locked room so that lamers won't get to call anywhere with our money!

OH7MO: Y'all hafta figure that out yerself... but after that just tell where ye want that phone plug, 'cause they may need to install a new one.

dArK sTuFfEr: That'd be a full 24H node by the way...

mR.mEgAsTuFf: Oh, yar damn right! In that case we should maybe bring someone's board computer there and replace it with that CP/M thing at his home...

dArK sTuFfEr: I'm not gonna change my home computer with some old junk, 'cause I've gotta made music.

WoRLD HeR0: And my board's already got a 24H node...

mR.mEgAsTuFf: So, it'd then be either Frontline or Tomhet that's gonna move to Hönttölä...

mR.mEgAsTuFf: Is WaRe FuCKeR's line still out? He'd be so happy -

WoRLD HeR0: I think it's still out for this month...

dArK sTuFfEr: It may not be worth moving Kassu's computer, 'cause his board makes him limit his outward calls.

dArK sTuFfEr: But what aboot Frontline? Would Darkie agree with that kinda change? At least he ain't got no music projects...

mR.mEgAsTuFf: I guess he'll gonna protest 'cause he's gotta get to play Civilization...

dArK sTuFfEr: Oh, yeah, right.

OH7MO: Maybe y'all could put the board up with that there Auditek as well? It wouldna need so much power, I reckon...

mR.mEgAsTuFf: Fuck's sake, does it even run PCBoard?

OH7MO: Sounds like a PC program...

mR.mEgAsTuFf: Fuck then, if ya've got a 24H board,l then ya've gotta have a machine that runs PCBoard and has even some power and disk space!

OH7MO: I may try to find some PC for that as well...

OH7MO: I guess y'all don't need a color display?

mR.mEgAsTuFf: Nope, it won't show to our users if there's a monochrome display in our board.

OH7MO: Well, maybe I'll look some XT or 286 for them for "long-term loan" as a BBS machine, if that's enough for runnin' yer stock program.

OH7MO: In old times, y'know, BBS operators programmed their own software, there were no stock ones...

mR.mEgAsTuFf: I guess they ended up bein' quite crappy.

WoRLD HeR0: But where would we get a modem for it?

mR.mEgAsTuFf: Oh, right... someone's gotta now give their Terbo away, 'cause everyone who's got a Terbo has it already in their board -

OH7MO: What'd be the slowest modem that suits y'all?

mR.mEgAsTuFf: Well, 2400 at least is totally too slow, and I guess 9600 would also be...

mR.mEgAsTuFf: So, it'd be 14400 for minimum.

OH7MO: It might be a bit hard to find a surplus one anywhere unless y'all collect some money to pay it...

mR.mEgAsTuFf: But we'll be finkin' 'bout this still, and we've gotta talk 'bout to the other members as well.

OH7MO: Well, so let's get to this BBS business later once y'all have gotten it decided.

mR.mEgAsTuFf: Okay. Well, I guess we should leave now and talk to the other members.

OH7MO: Allrighty then!

OH7MO: Y'all can visit me a bit longer next time, so I can show y'all a bit what kinda devices and gear we were buildin' in Lietevesi in our time.

OH7MO: I guess Jyri would like to see some of my synthesizers, 'cause he's making that computer music after all...

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