C00LeS WaReZ UNiON MeMOiRS: cHApTER #0x89

========= C00LeS WaReZ UNiON * HiSToRiCaL mEmOiRZ * cHApTeR #0x89 =========

DaTE:     1997-03-31 aT 14:15

LoCATi0N: myXTer's h0m3

pREsENT:  myXTer . dArK sTuFfEr . othra
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dArK sTuFfEr: Excellent! So we will be able to discuss for a moment without their negative interference.

myXTer: Allright then. I thought you might've something more special to chat about today.

OONA: Hey, is the other computer there on the desk the same as ya had in the toilet in Hönttölä?

dArK sTuFfEr: Affirmative, it is the Frontline BBS. We only got it back from the police less than two weeks ago.

myXTer: Well, in Hönttölä we would've risked that they come to take it back again. And it was easy to get a dedicated node for it in a rowhouse...

dArK sTuFfEr: Fortunately, CWU was still able to use the intermediate months effectively by organising attacks against CLAN ZERO, for instance.

myXTer: Right... But what about now that Frontline's back? Are you gonna carry on with the strikes nevertheless?

dArK sTuFfEr: I consider it worthwile to continue. By them, we have managed to get CZ interested in the occult, and it is important to maintain this interest.

dArK sTuFfEr: We are not winning until the occult has worked for them as a gateway to programming.

dArK sTuFfEr: To facilitate this, we will need to pose a greater magickal challenge on CZ. It is currently too little.

OONA: Yeah, 'coz we still keep losin' to them almost every time, 'coz Kassu is such a strong magickian!

dArK sTuFfEr: Affirmative, DaRK FuCKeR would be a challenging opponent even alone. Additionally, CZ has superior tactical combat skills.

myXTer: Hmm, I wonder if they've gotten their tactical skills by playing Quake...?

myXTer: Quake wouldn't even work in our computers! Something like Doom might, at most...

dArK sTuFfEr: Also, mR.mEgAsTuFf would never agree to practice his tactical skills with any kind of 3D shooter.

dArK sTuFfEr: On the other hand, we have superior entrainment techniques. CLAN ZERO, PC lamers as they are, have no access to MindBuilder.

dArK sTuFfEr: I do not believe they beat MindBuilder. I also do not believe that Quake beats the best games available for us.

myXTer: Well, I don't think Amiga or other old computers have any "occult" advantage to PC in things like that...

myXTer: Also, some eighties games don't even support as many players at the same time as the networked games do!

dArK sTuFfEr: The main issue here is not the occult level of the platform or even the maximum number of players, but the origin of the software.

dArK sTuFfEr: Instead of going through options already available in this reality, we can define the game we need by ourselves and -

myXTer: You mean you could still make some game before summer, for that practice? You never even finish your demo projects!!

dArK sTuFfEr: Programming is only one way to bring desired objects from the depths of possibility spaces. Parallel universe transitions -

myXTer: That doesn't sound very concrete to my ear, that parallel universe transition.

myXTer: Yeah, right, the COP dudes had stored it at some other U-coordinate position on the Amiga harddrive, or whatever it was -

dArK sTuFfEr: Actually, I have concluded that cULT oF pOWER was never even aware of MindBuilder, as it originated in a dream I had in December 1994.

dArK sTuFfEr: So, at the time, I had an exceptionally realistic dream, where I received a floppy disk from pHASERhAWK at school, containing MindBuilder.

dArK sTuFfEr: I was extremely surprised, when I found an exactly similar program on the hard drive of dRAGONcROW's Amiga in the following autumn.

myXTer: Well, I guess you'd just sen that proggie someplace before, and had just forgotten about it...

dArK sTuFfEr: I do not consider it possible. My prior knowledge on occult underground Amiga software was nearly nonexistent.

myXTer: Well, in that case, wouldn't a more credible theory be that it was some kinda prescient dream or clairvoyance or something?

dArK sTuFfEr: This is what I assumed at first, but then I talked with C.O.P. members, and it became apparent that they had never even seen the program before.

dArK sTuFfEr: I also copied it to them, and they seemed genuinely baffled about it, even though I had found it on their own Amiga's hard drive.

dArK sTuFfEr: The only conclusion I had left was that MindBuilder originated from a parallel reality unfamiliar to C.O.P.

dArK sTuFfEr: Affirmative. My dream defined coordinates for the n-dimensional point in the possibility space MindBuilder could be found at.

OONA: So, ya mean ya could like lucid-dream some game or program for yarself, and then actually bring it to yourself when yar awake...?

dArK sTuFfEr: You may recall how we used to read computer magazines in our elementary school times, dreaming of the games reviewed by them?

myXTer: Yeah. There was many games we never got, 'cause some of them were C64-only or then just for some Atari nobody even had...

dArK sTuFfEr: I have recently managed to load an MSX game that should not even exist. From a tape that was only supposed to contain radio noise.

dArK sTuFfEr: Ultima V. Or, actually, some kind of childhood imagining of what Ultima V might be like.

myXTer: Oh? That game is more than a meg big even on the PC, and you now claim there would be some tape version for the MSX...?

dArK sTuFfEr: No, it is not the Ultima V of this reality, but the Ultima V of my childhood imagination, fitting in my MSX's RAM at once.

myXTer: That sounds like a damn stupid claim now... you should show the game to me the next time I visit you!

dArK sTuFfEr: Welcome. I understand your skepticism, as even I found it difficult to accept the phenomenon.

dArK sTuFfEr: Neverheless, I am happy that I was able to finish telling you about it. I doubt it would have been possible with mR.mEgAsTuFf or wArlord present.

myXTer: Well, I dunno if I believe in your theories any more than they, but at least I'm always ready to listen to them...

OONA: Yeah, Jyri's theories are always really interesting I think, even if they weren't true!

myXTer: But if we assume that your idea's actually workin', then would you now lucid-dream a game like that for us...?

dArK sTuFfEr: Affirmative, once I have first managed to visualise it in a sufficiently vibrant and multifaceted manner.

myXTer: It would've been like dreams come true when we were kids, being able to just record the games from our dreams on the tape...

dArK sTuFfEr: Indeed. I assume that the forces of fate made me an MSX user in order to give me the motivation to develop this technique.

dArK sTuFfEr: And if I had alraedy been able to developed it in my elementary-school times, I might have been able to progress much further in the occult -

wArlord: Allrighty then, I'm then gonna upload my replypacket from this floppy and then download the new messages to it...

wArlord: Well, we should still try to pump up the messaging activity by exchanging the QWK packets as often as possible.

mR.mEgAsTuFf: That activity pump-up would be maybe easier if ya had the board computer at yar place...

wArlord: Yeah, it would, but it ain't worthy to pay for a new phoneline now that I'm gonna move out in the summer anyway...

dArK sTuFfEr: Are you planning to continue the operation of Frontline at your upcoming student apartment?

wArlord: Well, if I ever can get a phone node of my own in there, then absolutely...

myXTer: Nope, nobody's called today yet... usually they call in the evenings when the city-dwellers have lower fares...

mR.mEgAsTuFf: Fuck's sake, we should've gotten some! We've been advertising all around that Frontline's back online, and still nobody calls it!!

wArlord: Well, it ain't really drawin' users like it used to, 'cause it ain't connected to the Internet anymaw...

mR.mEgAsTuFf: Well, at least our core message-writers should find their way back there, dammit!

wArlord: On the other hand, we know aboot one core message-writer who I'm sure would like to call it but canna get in anymaw...

wArlord: Yeah, Kassu, right. I guess it wasn't the best shot to throw the most active Frontline and CWUnet messager away -

mR.mEgAsTuFf: WE DON'T FUCKIN' TOLERATE ENEMY-CREW LAMERZ ON OUR BOARDS, GODDAMMIT!!!

dArK sTuFfEr: CLAN ZERO actually is not even a proper crew but, as its name says, a mere lowly clan -

dArK sTuFfEr: I consider clans profoundly inferiour to groups, as they focus on irrelevant entertainment gaming.

wArlord: But I reckon the only board that's still managin' to draw more users is the fuckin' MBnet.

dArK sTuFfEr: Matches to my observations. Modemists are already so accustomed to the Internet that only the largest BBS suffices anymore.

wArlord: Right. They're sellin' new mawdems to the folks full steam, right, but ye don't really see that development at a normal small board anyhow.

mR.mEgAsTuFf: Well, I don't think our boards even need some newbies who've just got their first modem, actin' lamer all around, dammit.

wArlord: Well, I guess there might be some good fellas even between 'em sometimes...

ARJA: I wanted to ask Jussi once again if you're really going to take that "board computer" to yourself before we move out?

ARJA: And you're going to share the phone bill we got from its line before that?

ARJA: Yes, we did, but I just wanted to make sure, because you can't be trusted very well anymore -

ARJA: Hush! I just want to say, that once you get to live on your own, you're not going to get far with manners like that!

myXTer: Bloody hell, that Arja's getting more and more irritating the closer we get to my move-out day!!

dArK sTuFfEr: Maybe you should therefore move out before your designated move-out day, in order to not get into an irritation singularity.

myXTer: Nope, 'cause I don't know where I'm gonna get to study at, Oulu or Turku or where...

myXTer: But anyway, Arja's gonna move out sometime after Midsummer, and I'm thinking about moving out sometime before that!

myXTer: For the fuck's sake I don't! I deliberately applied to study at places where I'd get AS FAR AS I CAN from Arja!!!

mR.mEgAsTuFf: I still think yar gonna get back to yar mom's place in a month or so -

myXTer: FUCK THAT! wArlord Hey Mega, I guess he's allright with bein' on his own, 'cause he already spent many weeks at Wampires in Limperi?

myXTer: I'm not interested in Lietevesi or Pielavesi or any Savonian town AT ALL! I wanna get someplace where I've got FREEDOM!!

myXTer: In Lieteesi I've been havin' to be extra careful about just about fuckin' everything, especially after that Wampires shit!

myXTer: I never dared to do anything, 'cause it'd just spread rumors and get the cops' attention... I DON'T WANT THAT ANYMORE, EVER!!

myXTer: I wanna get FREE and find out what I really want from my life! I wanna take some adventures in other countries and all that...

myXTer: I wanna go thru the entire "possiblity space" in this life here! And not trust that they're covered by some parallel universes...

dArK sTuFfEr: You actually could not even traverse the entire possibility space in a single lifetime -

myXTer: Well, at least I wanna cover as much of it as I can! Like Vornas-Heikki did...

wArlord: It's gonna be so great, gettin' outta our parents' houses, INTO THE WORLD!!!

mR.mEgAsTuFf: Yeah, I'm already countin' mornings to da day I'm gonna getta FUCK outta there!!!

OONA: I don't believe any teacher wants to watch ya any extra time, so they're workin' hard to get ya outta here...

mR.mEgAsTuFf: Yeah, that's da reason I've been try to be a maximal pain-in-da-ass to da teachers!!

wArlord: Allrighty then. So, d'ya plan to move to Helsinki right in the start of summer after gettin' yar diploma?

mR.mEgAsTuFf: Yeah, I fuckin' do! Like, on da same day if possible! GOODBYE, FUCKIN' LIETEVESI!

mR.mEgAsTuFf: Oh, right, they're now! I could really go there, right, 'coz we never even got to properly booze last time becoz of the Wampires...

dArK sTuFfEr: Indeed. Let us use our journey to Abduction as a kind of testament to our shared childhood we shall remember forever.

myXTer: I'm also workin' on a demo for that... or it might be just intro, if the rest of us ain't planning to participate...

wArlord: I don't really care aboot takin' part in some demos anymaw, 'cause we've lost all of our scene reputation after all...

mR.mEgAsTuFf: Yeah, I dunno 'bout da demoz either, da main point for me is to get to fuckin' booze at a party, with no responsibilities at all!!

myXTer: I was just thinking that releasing a moderately decent demo or intro would fix some of our trashed scenefame...

dArK sTuFfEr: Indeed. I have been working on some C64 code with the grand plan of participating in the C64 democompo at Assembly.

mR.mEgAsTuFf: Is it fuckin' worthy to get to some fuckin' Asm, with all da Quake lamers...

dArK sTuFfEr: I have never visited an Assembly yet. Besides, it might be surprisingly easy to rank well in the C64 democompo there.

wArlord: Well, it might well be, 'cause I heard they only had sump'n like five demos last year.

dArK sTuFfEr: Indeed. With proper investment of effort, even a TOP-3 position would be perfectly feasible for CWU.

OONA: Are ya then gonna use that lucid-dreaming technique of yars when makin' that demo?

dArK sTuFfEr: I have not actually even thought about this possibility before, but yes, it could indeed be useful.

dArK sTuFfEr: I am only going to reveal the technique once my experiments have first convinced us of the usefulness of the technique for demos.

wArlord: Yeah, right. Ye could sometimes at least FINISH SUMP'N instead of just twiddlin' aroond and makin' rituals all the time!!

mR.mEgAsTuFf: Agreed. I'm still waitin' for da day that ya get AT LEAST ONE of the "revolutionary" prods released yar workin' on...

dArK sTuFfEr: I cannot promise to finish my Assembly demo due to the changes in my life, but I promise to try my best.